Plotting the date of the tower of Babel.

Hello Guys. Having calculated the dates of the flood and creation there’s one more I want to take a stab at, the date of the tower of Babel. I plotted the flood date to 3232 BC so the tower incident has to be later than that. I used the fall of Ur to get a date for Abram’s rescue of Lot at 1984 BC give or take about ten years. So the tower incident must have happened sometime between those two events. I have found one and only one verse in the old testament that gives us a shot at dating the tower. This is from the table of nations in Gen 10.

Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.

I Peleg’s day the earth was divided. Divided in what way? The bible doesn’t say any more about it. When I read this I get the impression that the writer assumed that any reader would know what he was talking about. I think this division must be the division of the earth among different language groups after the confusion of languages at the tower of Babel.
Let’s have a look in the Strong’s concordance and see what it has to say about the original Hebrew. The word peleg brings up three references in Strong’s. I will list them here.

H6389 Peleg peh’-leg the same as 6388; earthquake; Peleg, a son of Shem:–Peleg.

H6388 peleg peh’-leg from 6385; a rill (i.e. small channel of water, as in irrigation):–river, stream.

And finally
H6385 palag paw-lag’ a primitive root; to split (literally or figuratively):–divide.

The first two do not fit if this is referring to the division of the earth after the tower incident but H6385 does. I believe that division, the third option is the correct understanding of the word used for the name.
If you use Strong’s to look at the rest of the sentence. ‘in his days was the earth divided‘.

When you get to the word ‘divided‘ take a guess which Hebrew word is used.
It’s H6385 ‘palag’ a primitive root; to split or divide. By this we can be sure that H6385 is the correct understanding of the name.

A quick note about names in ancient times. They did not have an established pool of names that they chose from like we do today. People were named after something that they were saw doing or something that was associated with them. Very much like the way American Indians gave names. There’s more I could say about this but it’s a subject for another essay. If the Bible translators had translated the name Gen 10:25 would read like this.
the name of one was Divide; for in his days was the earth divided’

Okay now assuming that the confusion of languages happened in Peleg’s time we can use that and the dates from my previous two posts and get an approximate date for the tower incident. We can assume that the division of the land started shortly after the confusion of languages. We don’t know how long it would have taken but today people gather with others who speak the same language so there’s no reason to assume that people back then didn’t start doing the same thing right away. If I take the dates and times from my ‘dating the flood’ post. Peleg was born 529 years after the flood. That would make the year of Peleg’s birth 2703 BC. Gen 11:18-19 gives us Pelegs life span.

Gen 11:18 And Phaleg lived and hundred and thirty years, and begot Ragau. 19 And Phaleg lived after he had begotten Ragau, two hundred and nine years, and begot sons and daughters, and died. (Septuagint text)

Peleg died at 339 years old in 2364 BC. That gives us a 339 year range for the tower incident and the division into nations.

Sometime between 2703 BC and 2364 BC.

The earth was divided in Peleg’s time so the confusion of languages must have happened early in Peleg’s life. Otherwise there would not be time for the division of nations in Peleg’s lifetime. Remember Peleg was not named for the confusion at the tower but for the division that followed.

A likely time frame for the tower incident is 2700-2600 BC.

This date range fits rather nicely with a lot of what scholars and archaeologists have found in the ancient near east. 2700 BC is about the time when the Sumerian king Enmerkar was ruling Uruk (the biblical Erech). Archaeologist David Rohl makes a very good case for Enmerkar being the biblical Nimrod. The name ‘Enmerkar’ means ‘Enmer the hunter’ in Sumerian. The bible says Nimrod built Erech. The Sumerian kings list says that Enmerkar built Uruk. 2700 BC puts Nimrod/Enmerkar ruling Erech/Uruk 532 years after the flood. This is well within the possible lifespan of a great grandson of Noah. The most likely candidate for the Tower of Babel is the Eridu ziggurat. There is evidence that it dates to the early third millennium BC and it was never finished.

This date range also matches nicely with the appearance of several language isolates in the ancient near east. See my previous essay about language isolates and the tower of babel below.

A quick note about using scholarly material to study with.
When you look at scholarly dates keep in mind that scholars are indoctrinated into a fairy tale world view in which the earth is millions of years old so they tend set early dates artificially far back in time. From about 2000 BC and forward there are a lot of ways to cross check dates and there is a lot of written material. Most in the form of cuneiform on clay. So from 2000 BC and forward scholarly dates are not going to be too far off. They also can get stratigraphy right. That is archaeologists often know what came before what as long as they have sites with demolition and rebuilding on top of each other to study. But from the early third millennium BC and older, scholarly dates are going to be projected artificially far back in time. What I do is keep their data and ignore their conclusions. Use the data to draw your own conclusions within a biblical framework.

I’ve had a lot of fun with this dating project.

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Plotting the date of creation

Hello Guys.
In my last post I calculated the flood date at 3232 BC using the date of the fall of Ur and the genealogy in Genesis 11. Now that I have a flood date it’s a simple matter use the genealogies in Gen 5 to plot the date of creation. Again I will compare the Masoretic and Septuagint texts,

Masoretic text Genesis 5 genealogy.

Births

Years from the father’s birth to the son’s

Total years after creation

Adam created

0

0

Adam begats Seth

130

130

Seth begats Enos

105

235

Enos begats Cainan

90

325

Cainan begats Mahalaleel

70

395

Mahalaleel begats Jared

65

460

Jared begats Enoch

162

622

Enoch begats Mathusala

65

687

Mathusala begats Lamech

187

874

Lamech begats Noah

182

1056

Noah’s birth to the flood

600

1656

Now the Septuagint text Gen 5 genealogy

Births

Years from the father’s birth to the son’s

Total years after creation

Adam created

0

0

Adam begats Seth

230

230

Seth begats Enos

205

435

Enos begats Cainan

190

625

Cainan begats Malaleel

170

795

Malaleel begats Jared

165

960

Jared begats Enoch

162

1122

Enoch begats Mathusala

165

1287

Mathusala begats Lamech

167

1454

Lamech begats Noah

188

1642

Noah’s birth to the flood

600

2242

The Masoretic gives us 1656 years from creation to the flood. The Septuagint gives us 2242 years from creation to the flood. I am inclined to go with the Septuagint timeline for reasons I explained in my last post. Also when you look at the two timelines side by side the Septuagint is more uniform. You get the impression that a scribe dropped the first digit on some of the ages in the Masoretic. Notice that both give the same number of years from Jared to Enoch and then the Masoretic goes back to dropping 100 years off the age. So again I feel confident using the Septuagint timeline.

Okay in my last post I plotted the flood date at 3232 BC so.

3232 BC for the date of the flood.

2242 years from creation to the flood.

5474 BC is the likely date of creation.

The earth is 7492 years old if this is correct.

I’m sure other men have already used Gen 5 to get the time from creation to the flood but still I enjoyed doing it myself.

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Pinning down the date of the deluge

Hello Guys. For a long time I have looked for something in the book of Genesis that could give me an accurate time reference. It’s easy enough to use the genealogies in Genesis to get the amount of time from the flood to the sojourn but then you don’t know where to assign the beginning or the end of that time span. While rereading some parts of Genesis the other day I noticed something that I think gives me a date that I can tie to a point in Abram’s life. Here is Gen 14:1-4.

1 And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations; 2 That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela, which is Zoar. 3 All these were joined together in the vale of Siddim, which is the salt sea. 4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.

A few things to notice here. Out of the four kings that are invading Chedorlaomer king of Elam is clearly the one in charge. Notice that it was Chedorlaomer that the Canaanite kings had served for twelve years. Elam was clearly the top dog at this time and had subjugated Canaan. Having studied the ancient history of the near east this struck me as odd. What was Elam doing in Canaan? For the majority of it’s history Elam was blocked from Canaan by Sumer and Akkad. Two ancient civilizations that were militarily more powerful than Elam and they sat squarely between Elam and Canaan. There was only one short period in which this was not so. The third dynasty of Ur was the last gasp of the Sumerian civilization. Ur was the capitol but was weakening. In 2004 BC the Elamites conquered and sacked Ur. The city state of Isin grew in power and was able to drive out the Elamites later on but for about forty years Elam held Ur and was the top dog in lower Mesopotamia. This is the time period in which Elam would have had access to Canaan and the power to subjugate kingdoms in Canaan. I think this must have been the time frame for
Genesis 14.

I am now going to speculate for a moment.
The Elamite’s conquest of Ur could be the reason Terah took his family and left Ur in the first place. Gen 11:28 says that Abram’s brother Haran died in Ur. It’s possible that he was killed in the battle. In Gen 14:14-16 Abram and his allies were able to handle Chedorlaomer which suggests that Abram was a competent soldier. The men in Abram’s family may have taken part in the defense of Ur and had to flee when their side lost the battle. This is just speculation on my part but it is possible given the facts that we have.

This map gives you an idea of where Elam was in relation to Canaan.

If the conquest of Ur is the correct time for Abram and Terah’s exit we can plot the flood date from it. First let’s tally up the time from the flood to Abram’s birth using the genealogy in Genesis 11.

Here are the years from the flood to Abram’s birth based on the Masoretic text.

Births

Years from the father’s birth to the son’s birth.

Total years after the flood

Shem begats Arphaxad

2 years after the flood

2

Arphaxad begats Salah

35

37

Salah begats Eber

30

67

Ebar begats Peleg

34

101

Peleg begats Reu

30

131

Reu begats Serug

32

163

Serug begats Nahor

30

193

Nahor begats Terah

29

222

Terah begats Abram

70

292

Using the Masoretic text of Genesis 11:1 we get 292 years from the flood to the birth of Abram. This just isn’t long enough for the population spread that we see in Abraham’s time. Now let’s look at the much older Septuagint version.

Here are the years from the flood to Abram’s birth based on the Septuagint text.

Births

Years from the father’s birth to the son’s birth

Total years after the flood

Shem begats Arphaxad

2 years after the flood

2

Arphaxad begats Cainan

135

137

Cainan begats Salah

130

265

Salah begats Eber

130

395

Eber begats Peleg

134

529

Peleg begats Reu

130

659

Reu begats Serug

130

789

Serug begats Nahor

130

919

Nahor begats Terah

179

1098

Terah begats Abram

70

1168

The Septuagint gives us a much more likely time frame of 1168 years. Plenty of time for the tower incident and the spread of the nations and people. Plus the oldest Septuagint that we have is over a thousand years older than the oldest Masoretic text that we have. Some are going to say the Septuagint is in Greek and the Masoretic is in Hebrew so the Masoretic is more trustworthy. That argument might work except for the fact that the Greek Septuagint was translated from a version of the Hebrew text that is much older than the Masoretic. The oldest Hebrew texts that we have from among the dead sea scrolls match the Septuagint. Also there is the fact that when Jesus quoted the OT it was usually the Septuagint that He was quoting. So I feel pretty confident using the Septuagint timeline.

So we have 1168 years from the flood to Abram’s birth. We know from Gen 12:4 that Abram was 75 years old when he left Harran and moved to Canaan. We don’t know how long Abram had been in Canaan when Lot was captured but we know from Gen 16:3 that it was less than ten years. Let’s take the middle ground and say five years.

1168 years flood to the birth of Abram.
75 years from Abram’s birth until Abram left Harran.
5 Years approx in Canaan before Lot’s capture.

1248 years from the flood to Abram’s rescue of lot in Canaan.

Okay now assuming that Abram’s rescue of Lot happened while the Elamites held Ur it would have been between 2004 BC and 1964 BC. We know from Gen 14:4 that it would have been at least twelve years after Ur fell so let’s take a likely mid range date of 1984 BC.

1984 BC date for Abram’s rescue of Lot
1248 from the flood to Abram’s rescue of Lot

3232 BC is the likely date for the deluge.

If someone else has already calculated the flood date this way before me I apologize for stepping on your toes. I didn’t know.
If this turns out to be wrong I’m fine with it but this was a fun research project.

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Language isolates and the tower of Babel

Hello Guys. I recently read an article by a linguist about language isolates in the ancient near east. A ‘language isolate’ is a language not related to any other known language. Most languages today are part of language families. For instance English, German, Italian and Greek are part of the Indo-European language family meaning that they all are offshoots of an original proto Indo-European language. A language isolate has no such connections. A proto language of a language family like proto Indo-European would also be a language isolate before it branched out into a family of languages. I was surprised that there were so many language isolates in the ancient near east and they were clustered in relatively small geographic area. Another interesting tidbit was the time frame. These languages coexisted in the same general time period around the mid third millennium BC. It dawned on me that what I was looking at was the direct result of the confusion of Languages at the tower of Babel. The location and the time frame are correct. First lets dig into where the tower was likely to have been. There’s a Bible verse that is helpful.

Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

The plain of Shinar is Mesopotamia, the plain that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers flow through. If the people were travelling from the east and found the plain that tells us that the location where the ark came to rest is east of Mesopotamia. It came to rest in mountains. The biblical writer calls them the mountains of Ararat. There is no mountain range known as Ararat today but there is a mountain range just to the east of the Mesopotamian plain. They are the Zagros mountains and at the Northern end of the Zagros there is a mountain called Mount Ararat.

The area circled in red below is the Zagros mountains that lie east of the plain. The place where the ark came to rest is likely to be somewhere in the red circled area. The area circled in blue below is the Mesopotamian plane. The location of the tower of Babel is likely to be somewhere in the blue circled area.

near east w plain and zagros

Genesis 11:7-8 Says that the Lord scattered the people from this area.

Gen 11: 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

Now shortly after this happened what would we expect to see? We would expect to see groups speaking different and unrelated languages in the area around the plain. If the Lord gave them completely new languages these new languages could be language isolates. Lo and behold this is exactly what we see. Below is a map showing language isolates that were spoken in the area in the third millennium BC.

near east language isolates

1. Sumerian,
2. Elamite,
3. Akkadian,
4. Gutian,
5. Kassite,
6. Hurro-Urartian,
7. Hattic,
8. Kaskian,
9. Kartvellian
10. Northeast Caucasian
11. Northwest Caucasian
12. Proto-Indo-European, estimated

A dozen language isolates spoken in close proximity to each other in the ancient near east. Ussher calculated the flood date to 2349 BC but I believe that this is too late. Using the Septuagint genealogies I get a flood date of 3232 BC and a tower of Babel date of 2700-2600 BC so the time frame fits.

Some of these are proto languages of language families but were language isolates before branching out into families. Some may give me grief for including Akkadian but Akkadian is the oldest attested Semitic language and probably is the proto language of the Afro-Asiatic family. A scholar would say it’s not the proto but most scholars are hamstrung by holding an evolutionary worldview instead of a biblical worldview.

These were all spoken within a five hundred mile radius.

 

500 mile radius

Here you can see how small the area is on a global scale. It’s obvious that we are looking at the direct result of the confusion of languages at the tower of Babel. There were probably more language isolates back then that we don’t know about.

earth 500 mile radius

If you want to read the article that introduced me to this it is linked below. It’s an excellent blog and all of his posts are well worth reading.

Emekurnet.wordpress.com

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Melchezedek and his priesthood.

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Melchezedek and his priesthood.

Hello Guys. I recently listened to Mike Heiser answer the question ‘who was Melchezedek?’ I was surprised at how poorly such a brilliant man answered that question. He completely missed the obvious aspects of Melchezedek and then cluttered the issue with items that are obviously of no importance. So let me answer the question with the simple obvious answer. Mel was a priest king of a Canaanite city. Some of you are thinking right now ‘no Mel was the king of Jerusalem’. Well there was no Jerusalem at that time. This was 2000 BC give or take. The city was a Canaanite city and it was just called Salem. It didn’t become an Israelite city until a thousand years later when David conquered it. 1000 BC give or take. So when Abraham met Mel the city was firmly Canaanite. Mel was a priest king of the city so we can be reasonably sure that he was also a Canaanite. Some of you are thinking right now ‘wait a minute the Canaanites were idol worshippers’. Yes they were later but at that time no they were not. Never in Abraham’s travels through Canaan does the bible mention Abraham encountering Idol worship. Instead he finds people worshipping or at least aware of the genuine God. Melchizedek is one example. Another is when God talks to the king of Gerar in a dream and protects him from sinning by not letting him touch Sarah (Gen 20:1-9). Not something God does for an idol worshipper. There is no recorded instance of idol worship in Canaan until after the sojourn in Egypt. At one point God even tells Abraham that he cannot have the land yet because the iniquity of the people of Canaan is not complete (Gen 15:16). In other words they hadn’t degenerated into idol worship yet. You may be thinking ‘weren’t the Canaanites always idol worshipers?’. Of course not. There’s no reason to assume that. Every person in the world was descended from Noah. We can assume that Noah, his family and his descendants for at least a few generations were well aware of who God was and that He had spared them from the deluge. The time frame in which Abraham met Mel was not that long after the flood so you would expect a lot of people in the world to still be worshipping or at least aware of the genuine God. Polytheism seems to have sprang up during the sojourn. So finding a Canaanite king who is a priest of the most high God at this early date should not be a surprise at all. The first generations after the flood were still quite long lived so Mel could have only been a few generations from Noah. We don’t know how old Mel was at the time. He could have been a grandson or great grandson of Noah. Now having said all that we can be reasonably sure Melchizedek was a Canaanite.
So what is significant about the ‘priesthood on the order of Melchizedek’? The priesthood of Melchizedek is a priesthood of priests chosen by God. Priests chosen independently of the levitical system. Priests who’s priesthood is not dependent on them being in the line of Aaron. That is the gist of the priesthood of Melchizedek. Mel was a priest of God before Aaron was born. The bible says so. David was said by scripture to be a priest in the order of Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4,5). David’s full time job was not as a priest and there were priests and prophets who worked for him. There were also priests at the tabernacle in David’s time but there were times in David’s life when he filled the role of priest himself, went straight to God himself and performed sacrifices to the Lord himself (2nd Sam 24:25). David was not in the line of Aaron but was a priest like Melchizedek, chosen by God. The scripture says so, therefore it is so. The Lord Jesus is also called a priest in the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 5). Our one and only high priest who’s priesthood was established by God and is not dependent on levitical law or on Him being a descendant of Aaron. The Lord also made a sacrifice, the last sacrifice that will ever be needed. I hope this clarifies who Mel was and what is significant about his priesthood.

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Elongated Skulls, My Theory

I have a theory about what was going on with those elongated skulls that we see pictures of all over the net. The skulls are attributed to everything from nephilim to alien hybrids and other such whackadoodle. I have an idea that fits better with the facts. We know the elongation of the skulls was due to head binding. The question is why. There’s been speculation that they were trying to emulate the appearance of some other people group. OK if that’s the case then who? I have an idea who it might be. First lets look at some pictures.

Here is a typical elongated skull of the style found at Paracas.

elongated2

Now here is a Neanderthal skull.

neanderthal2

Now here’s a Neanderthal skull and an average human skull side by side for comparison.

both

Notice how the Neanderthal skull is elongated towards the rear. Were the head binders trying to look like Neanderthals? In his book ‘Buried Alive’ Jack Cuozzo offers very good evidence that Neanderthals were just people who lived to be very old. (1) The bones of the face and head continue to grow even in old age. If you could live to be three hundred plus years old you also would have the type of features a Neanderthal had. It’s pretty obvious that the Neanderthal remains that have been found are from the first several generations after the flood when people still live several hundred years. The timeline of the book of genesis tells us that some of these first post flood people were still alive as late as Abraham’s time. That is in the 2100 to 1800 BC range. The practice of head binding is believed to pre-date written history. (2) What probably happened was that as people stopped living long enough to look like their forefathers the practice was taken up. To the later generations these first post flood generations would have seemed nearly immortal. Much later cases of head binding suggest that the practice was passed down and continued long after everyone who remembered what the ancients had looked like was dead.

1 http://www.jackcuozzo.com/

2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation

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Why I think alien abductions are Just dreams or visions

There are a couple of reasons why I believe alien abductions are just dreams. First of all is the testimonies of abductees. They all start with phrases like these ‘as I was going to sleep’, ‘as I was waking up’, ‘I woke up and such and such happened’. They are pretty much all like this. All abductions take place at night when a victim is in and out of asleep. The evidence suggests that abductions are just demonic dream attacks. These dreams happen in a state of light or partial sleep when your brain is in an alpha state. The alpha state gives demons a sort of window into your mind. The dream is just a sort of demonic video feed. When you are awake and thinking your mind is in a beta state. Abduction experiences often start when someone wakes up or thinks he has awakened and then the experience begins. Demons will often include a false waking up vision at the beginning of a dream attack. This is to make the victim think what he is experiencing is real “I can’t be dreaming I just woke up”. The mind is in alpha so the logical and critical thinking is way below what it usually is. It can seem very real.

Here’s another tidbit of evidence. Calling out in the name of Jesus stops an abduction in it’s tracks. The vision of the space ship instantly disappears and the victim is in his bed. This strongly suggests that the victim was never in a space ship to begin with.

Women are often impregnated during abductions but there is never a medically confirmed pregnancy that results from this.

Victims are often operated on during abductions but afterward there is never a would or scar to suggest that the operation really took place.

Abduction victims experience unusual illnesses, headaches, nosebleeds, etc. These kinds of symptoms are also common with people under demonic oppression suggesting that the two are the same thing just with different visions.

As for the implants. The discovery channel made the special from which most of the evidence for implants is taken in these discussions. If you’ve ever watched Chris White’s “Ancient aliens debunked” then you know how dishonest the discovery channel can be. The so called implants are never technology. There are no circuits in them. They are just random bits of material usually some kind of metal.

I think we all know that Satan runs our government now. They don’t have any problem perpetrating the lie that aliens exist. They don’t want us to know it’s just demons and their deception.

None of us have to agree on this but these are my reasons. Years ago I was on the receiving end of demonic dream attacks so I know how real they can seem. A few times I actually thought I had woke up and was up walking around finding weird stuff happening. So when an abduction victim says that their experience happened while they were awake I don’t think they are lying because I know demons can make it look like you are awake. Once I learned what was really going on the jig was up though. That’s why I think it’s important for people to know that this isn’t physical. If a victim is convinced it’s real it will be harder for them to realize that the name of Jesus can put an end to this permanently.

Another reason I reject the idea of physical abductions is because the notion is intertwined with the idea of modern day nephilim. The scenario goes like this. Some abductions are physical and people really are taken to spaceships. They have added a Christian twist to it by saying that it is nephilim in the spaceships doing the abducting instead of aliens. The whole crazy scenario has many new age elements intertwined in it. See my article about the modern nephilim scenario compared to new age beliefs.

https://discernmentzone.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/the-modern-nephilim-scenario-compared-to-new-age-beliefs/

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